And not that I would want it any other way, just that I thought my doctors office would fight for them also.
I discovered today, though, they definitely fit in the "secular" hospital.
What does that mean?
Well, apparently progesterone isn't that important to them.
I get the impression, if it goes up, great, if not, then maybe you aren't meant to be pregnant.
Here's how my day went.
Woke up at 11 and was bummed that I hadn't been woken up earlier from my phone ringing from my doctors office.
To say I was anxious for the hcg and progesterone results is an understatement.
Anyways, so I call them at 11:30 and here was the conversation:
Nurse: hello?
Me: yes, it's J and i'm calling to see if you have my lab results, since y'all close at 1:00 today and I most certainly can't see myself waiting until Monday. Also, this is our first pregnancy in 5 years and so I want to be extra cautious and do everything I can.
Nurse: Oh wow, y'all must have decided to relax!
*i say nothing but an uncomfortable laugh and an "ok." I am in a bit of shock that that was spoken, but not important.
Me: So do y'all have my lab results?
Nurse: Hmm, I'm not so sure, but I can check for you...oh wait, haha, they're right here on my desk actually.
*i start to get a little frustrated thinking about what if I hadn't called then...would they have simply waited until Monday, since their office was closing in 1.5 hours.
Nurse: Okay, your Hcg went from 250 on Monday, to 658 on Thursday.
Me: That's ok right, since I read that it needs to be doubling every 72 hours..right?
Nurse: Well, yes, that's true but I'd like to see the number higher, so you aren't out of the clear yet.
*insert pit in my stomach and doubt about anything I had ever read/been told.
Me: Oh, ok...what about my progesterone? I'm worried about it being low and about that one pill per night not being enough.
Nurse: Yeah, it seems it's only gone from 6.2-8.6. That's still really low.
Me: well what is your protocol at the office? I mean, it needs to be higher to support the baby.
Nurse: it's early in your pregnancy and that's all we do.
Me: so, I have low progesterone and you want me to keep going the same thing?
Nurse: that's correct. We'll have you do another blood draw Monday to see about those numbers...the hcg and progesterone.
*this is when I realize I'm so grateful that I trusted my gut and yalls advice about contacting PPVI to monitor my progesterone.
Me: okay, we'll I wanted y'all to know that we are working with a fertility specialist up in Omaha and they're sticklers for progesterone and they actually were quite concern about the Los levels and have over nights the injections to me. Do yall do injections by the way?
Nurse: we pretty much do the one pill at night.
Me: okay, well we are going to be working with them also and they want me to start injections today and I just wanted y'all to know.
Nurse: okay, I'll just put it down in your chart that y'all are handling that part on your own. Y'all have a wonderful weekend and don't forget your blood draw Monday!
So yeah, I was baffled a bit. I mean, I honestly assumed that they would be willing to do more, heck, even up the pills!! But no, they were sticking to what they know.
At first I wondered why we would have to go through all the trouble and send in our medical records into PPVI, and then get the letter only to find out a few short days later, that we were pregnant (my heart still is in shock and skips a happy beat when I say this!!!).
Well, it has been amazingly perfect because the nurses up there have contacted me and arranged for the injections to be delivered and all while I'm still trying to figure out how to ship my labs (which I may have figured out!!).
I was already in their system.
The timing was perfect.
Anyways, so in a nutshell, I'm so grateful for PPVI and their willing to fight for this little being, along with my dh and I.
The other doctors office is nice, don't get me wrong, I can just tell that they don't quite view this little one as a baby...but a pregnancy that could go either way.
It's the end of the day, my bum hurts from my first injection, I'm not cramping or spotting and I'm just sitting here, thanking God for allowing both my husband and I to be co-creators of life with Him.
I pray my numbers rise properly and that this little one continues to grow, so that hopefully, God willing we will meet them in 8 months!
Goodnight for now, I've got to get my beauty rest...tomorrow is our five year anniversary and I certainly don't want to have bags under my eyes!!
“Perseverance is not a long race; it is many short races one after the other” [Walter Elliot, Catholic priest]
Saint Gerard, Saint Anthony, Saint Therese, Saint Gianna, Blsd JPII...pray for us!!
Good job!! Fight for that little one!! It saddens me that secular dr's don't usually care about progesterone. I wonder how many miscarriages could have been saved. It's soooo different with NaPro docs. I worked with Dr. S in PA and it was the opposite of the conversation you described with that nurse. It was about doing everything possible to save the LIFE inside of me. Good for you! Keep fighting! And those numbers are moving UP!!! That's good news!
ReplyDeleteI'm so happy that the numbers are improving, but I'm praying that things keep getting better! I have goosebumps over the way it all worked out with Omaha. I could not figure out how the local nurse could be so unconcerned, but I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that they are treating a pregnancy that may go one way or the other, and you are fighting for the life of your child!
ReplyDeleteGrow, baby, grow!
I thought you were going to say you didn't get more progesterone and I was about to say "I'll overnight my pills to you!!!" haha.... I'm so glad that PPVI pulled through for you. I guess it was meant to be that you sign up with them! Such a blessing!
ReplyDeleteJust like Catholic Mutt, I am covered in goose bumps at God's timing and making sure you were a patient of PPVI just in time!
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry your doctors office isn't more proactive - I am gonna love it when you show them just what good prenatal care is really all about!
Oh, and The Man about fell out of his chair when I told him that we needed to buy kayaks and I needed to have a sore throat in order to get pregnant. I was so right because his next words were "maybe you shouldn't be reading all these blogs if that's how you think babies are made." - Ha!
I've been checking all day to see how things are going! SO GRATEFUL that baby FMTP is still growing. Thank goodness for PPVI coming through with the progesterone. Praying so hard for you and baby!
ReplyDeleteLove PPVI!! Keep fighting! My husband is a NaPro doc and he's been laughed out of the room by mainstream ob/gyns when he talks about progesterone. Many hugs to you - I completely sympathize!!
ReplyDeleteLove PPVI!! Keep fighting! My husband is a NaPro doc and he's been laughed out of the room by mainstream ob/gyns when he talks about progesterone. Many hugs to you - I completely sympathize!!
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear that your secular doc's office has been less than helpful on the progesterone front, but I'm so glad that the timing worked out so well with PPVI. It's scary when you are worried about your inside baby's safety (I had a subchorionic bleed and thankfully I was on progesterone), and there is so little that you can do.
ReplyDeletePraying for you and your inside baby!
That is just absolutely ridiculous! That makes me really mad! I'm glad you're being confident in what you know and advocating for your baby. I'm praying for you and for baby and that progesterone level - we're just going to pray this baby here!
ReplyDeleteAhhh Napro comes through again. Keep fighting Momma! Love and prayers for you!
ReplyDeleteThat makes me so mad about your regular dr's office! How can they be so blind? I still remember my second pregnancy that ended in a miscarriage, sitting in the exam room, hearing my OB on the phone in the hallway with the fertility dr (not a napro doc) about the progesterone I was demanding, and hearing my OB saying, "yeah, I know it's not going to make a difference . . ." I can't wait until the day when they all meet their maker and get a good talking to!
ReplyDelete"You guys must have decided to relax." What the heck?!! That is incredibly insulting. I am feeling quite p'oed for you over all this. But so glad you are feeling good and aren't having any negative signs yet!
ReplyDeleteIm glad for an update ... and that you are getting the progesterone from PPVI!!! That doctors office ... Or that nurse ... Can just go jump in a creek as far as I'm concerned. Those nurses' comments ... Ugh!!!
ReplyDeleteHappy Anniversary!!!!! Prayers for you and baby!
Thank you God for PPIV!!
ReplyDeletePraying - St Michael the Archangel defend us in battle. . .
Okay I am SO glad you got your injections from PPVI! Thank God!
ReplyDeleteMy OB said the same thing about my low prog.. that prog supplements don't matter. Yes, they do matter. The research they are citing when they say stuff like this is research on *artificial* or *non-bioidentical* progesterone... NOT the bioidentical progesterone that PPVI uses. With bioidentical prog, it makes a huge difference! A local NaPro doc saved a baby not long ago at 6 weeks by giving the patient (who was staring to miscarry) a shot of the bioidentical prog... stopped the miscarriage and baby kept on growing (and the patient continued with prog monitoring and support). It makes me so mad that more OB's don't do their research and fight for these little ones.
Aside from the stupid comments at the beginning, I was actually very impressed with how willing they seemed to continue working with you after you mentioned getting your progesterone (meds and labs) elsewhere. We see it time and time again where Ob offices literally instruct patients to stop taking progesterone or they won't see them as patients!! (We've had some patients even go so far as to lie about being on it!)
ReplyDeleteI don't disclose to my OB what he doesn't need to know.... :)
ReplyDeleteI would probably go further and not tell them you are on progesterone because then you will have to deal with what they think about it etc.....Baby catchers is all they are... ;)
LOL @ GIMH....
ReplyDeleteI feel like a blog drug dealer too.... :)
Grrrrr to that nurse and office. Fight fight fight! I'm not into violence or anything... but if you need me to punch that nurse, I will do it for you.
ReplyDeleteThank goodness you were in with PPVI!! And I LOVE how you got the St. Gerard prayer card in the mail the other day. Yep, perfect timing for that prayer card as well.
St. Gerard, pray for us, J and her baby!!!
Praise God for your rising numbers. Hopefully the progesterone shots will get you to a safer place soon with your progesterone.
ReplyDeleteWow, I don't think I could have dealt as gracefully with that nurse. I am a calm person but when it comes to my children, I'm prepared to fight for their needs. I'm thankful my midwives don't interfere with my progesterone support during my pregnancies. They are content to leave that to my Napro doctor and I am content to have them keep their noses out of it, so it all works out.
I will overnight you any progesterone you need. I have suppositories, PIO, endometrium, and more.
ReplyDeleteI cant stand secular OB's!!! They are idiots!! I cant stand that nurse "what is up with the relax comment"...idiot! I am praying for you and baby!! Down that prog!!
ReplyDeleteThat is great that your numbers went up!! Sad though that that's the attitude of so many 'regular' docs and clinics. Praise God for PPVI and Napro docs! So glad you were able to start the shots! But ugh can't believe what that nurse said. Try not to worry about them though...you've got your progesterone and now those numbers will just shoot up! Grow baby grow...St. Gerard pray for us!
ReplyDeleteJust checking in...praying for you!
ReplyDeleteI didn't read everyones comments... but for the sore bum (I am on 200 x2 a week) you have to do a deep tissue rub after the shot. We were really struggling with how sore I was... but once George started giving me a 10 min rub each night, things have gotten a lot better. I admire your willingness to seek PPVI out for help!
ReplyDeleteI too am in the same situation as you with my local doc, its so sad. In fact, I have switched to a midwife so I can send my blood to Omaha bc the local lab was doing it wrong and giving results that were not correct. ugh! But things are better now.
Yay for PPVI!!
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